A preacher requested me out after which started stalking me

Aleem Maqbool, religion editor & Steve SwannFile on 4 Investigates

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It seemed enjoy a pain free bump into.

It was as soon as the summer of 2021, and Jay Hulme, a volunteer at St Nicholas Church in Leicester, was as soon as on the door, welcoming folk. That’s when Venessa walked in.

“There was as soon as one thing awkward about her,” he recalls. “But I believed it was as soon as about being in a brand new church with new folk, and we had been correct coming out of the pandemic. There was as soon as no red flag.”

Venessa Pinto, employed by the Leicester diocese of the Church of England as a lay preacher – a non-ordained one who can lead like – returned a pair of extra cases to Jay’s church.

About a weeks later, they both took place to be at a midweek service in Leicester Cathedral. When it was as soon as over, she approached him and requested to bid privately. They stepped into the serene of the former cathedral graveyard.

Then she requested him out.

“I was as soon as very surprised, which skill of I didn’t know her. And I was as soon as enjoy, ‘I’m homosexual, but thank you for asking.’ But she requested me if it was as soon as which skill of she was as soon as gloomy.”

Jay was as soon as startled by the query. He gently reiterated that he would possibly well maybe perhaps no longer exit on a date which skill of he was as soon as homosexual – and likewise no longer in the supreme space for a relationship.

“I left it pondering, ‘That was as soon as very awkward’, but I mediate, ‘That’s the tip of that.’”

It wasn’t.

If reality be told, it was as soon as the starting of a devastating marketing campaign of stalking and harassment. And when Jay complained, the highest authority in the Church in Leicester – a top contender to be the following Archbishop of Canterbury – acknowledged he didn’t salvage him. As an different, he accused Jay of witchcraft.

A blue label with service data and bid to vital components in the foreground, with St Nicholas Church in Leicester's former stone constructing in the background.

St Nicholas Church, Leicester

‘Vile man’

That summer, Jay Hulme, then in his mid-twenties, was as soon as at a extremely glad juncture in his lifestyles. He was as soon as a poet and author, an assistant warden on the LGBT-pleasant St Nicholas Church and known on social media for his enjoy of church constructions and theology.

He was as soon as exploring his Christian religion and brooding about the different of coaching to change into a priest in the impending years.

“I’m also trans, I’d reach out a favor of years sooner than, and I’d in the waste reach to an enviornment of fleshy and total happiness with who I was as soon as. I noticed my future unfurling sooner than me in a reach that had felt very no longer likely sooner than,” he reminisces.

After being rejected, Venessa, also then in her mid-twenties, despatched Jay a series of “offended and accusatory” messages, announcing he was as soon as gossiping about her. Despite the incontrovertible truth that he tried to reassure her he wasn’t, she was as soon as adamant.

To take a behold at to resolve issues, Jay agreed to a ask from her to meet. He had been creep that the assembly took place exterior in public but a heavy rainstorm intended they ended up internal, by myself collectively at her office.

He says she yelled at him, telling him he was as soon as a liar, a racist and an unpleasant particular person – demanding an apology over and over with out telling him what he was as soon as presupposed to have carried out.

Unsettled, Jay stopped interacting with Venessa and refrained from her when she persisted to reach aid to his church. But then he started to score messages from anonymous on-line accounts which would maybe be seen by his social media followers.

Screenshot of messages reading:

A series of messages read: Sorry but you doubtlessly would maybe be in fact rather gruesome. Internal and exterior. Vile man

Why construct you skills hurting me so worthy? What have I ever carried out to you to deserve this extra or much less medicine?

Am I no longer a human being that deserves to be treated with dignity and appreciate?

Jay snappy labored out the author was as soon as Venessa. She even despatched him an electronic mail from her private epic apologising for what she described because the “be troubled” she’d caused.

But the nastiness on-line escalated, with Venessa publicly making fraudulent allegations and threats.

Screenshot of messages reading: Tear and extinguish your self. That can create my lifestyles so worthy less complicated. DIE! I mean it. Monster!!

I will create your lifestyles hell, I promise you. 

It is most likely you'll perhaps perhaps presumably also drink rat poison. I mean that's a painless reach of death

Jay was as soon as appealing for his safety. He reported the harassment to Leicestershire Police. He says he didn’t favor Venessa prosecuted at that time – correct for the abuse to cease.

But he heard nothing aid and the abuse persisted relentlessly. Every time he blocked an epic, one more would spring up. Jay felt he had no reach of escaping it.

“I felt enjoy she was as soon as in my pocket, and in my home, and in my mind the entire time, announcing these horrendous issues and I couldn’t score away,” he says.

Jay compulsory to raise on-line which skill of his writing and talking commitments. But he was as soon as beginning to lose contracts. He suspects that was as soon as which skill of the allegations about him on-line.

Lastly, weeks after reporting it, the police did seek recommendation from Venessa. The final end result was as soon as removed from ample for Jay.

“She advised the officer that it was as soon as her friends who had been sending the messages, and the officer advised her to mumble them to cease. I was as soon as advised by the police that I ought to correct delete my social media,” he says.

Jay says he obtained the affect the police didn’t love the seriousness of the abuse which skill of it was as soon as on-line.

Stalker books onto same retreat

The police seek recommendation from precipitated even extra offended messages from Venessa.

Jay then started assembling a extremely effective physique of proof, now on a mission to display the messages had no longer been despatched by Venessa’s friends, but by Venessa herself.

He compiled a detailed spreadsheet starting off the connections between the loads of anonymous accounts which had despatched abuse or posted allegations about him. All of them led aid to Venessa.

Having lost religion in the police, Jay handed all this proof to the Church of England, which promised to investigate his formal criticism.

Whereas he waited, he thought he would score some respite by going to a soundless Jesuit retreat in rural Wales. Days later, a colleague advised him Venessa had booked to cross to the right same retreat.

Jay had booked ideal minute and says there had been no longer many slots left. “It’s in the heart of nowhere. As a ways as I’m appealing there would possibly well be not this kind of thing as a reach that will perhaps have took place naturally.”

Jay left the retreat correct hours sooner than Venessa arrived. It left him afraid, feeling the stalking had now gone previous the confines of the guidelines superhighway.

Accused of witchcraft

Lastly, there was as soon as some sure news for Jay.

Wait on in Leicester, the Church HR investigation concluded Venessa had been accountable for the abuse, to Jay’s gigantic relief. He assumed that will perhaps perhaps be the tip of it.

But nearly as soon as that took place, there was as soon as an surprising flip.

He was as soon as called into a gathering with the Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow – who’s seen as a fave to change into the following Archbishop of Canterbury, chief of the Church of England.

Dwelling of Lords/Roger Harris A portrait of Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow, wearing a navy blue blazer with a red shirt. He is smiling and wearing glasses, with a grey background. Dwelling of Lords/Roger Harris

Bishop of Leicester Martyn Snow

Jay thought Venessa was as soon as going to lose her job. But it in fact turned out the bishop had done his have investigation.

“I hump in and the bishop sits down with this thick folder on his knee. And he begins to request from me about my criticism. He in fact states that ‘It’s he acknowledged, she acknowledged’.”

The bishop acknowledged he didn’t salvage that Venessa had been accountable for the harassment. And he wouldn’t uphold Jay’s criticism towards her.

Then he made an unheard of accusation about Jay.

“Any individual had given an announcement that I had been seen in the church, in the darkness, with a candle – they generally thought I was as soon as conducting a seance. For readability, I was as soon as praying with a candle at heart of the evening, which skill of that’s a thing that Christians construct,” says Jay.

It obtained worse.

Bishop Snow accused him of practising witchcraft – both which skill of the “seance” and the truth Jay took place to have a shut friend who was as soon as a tarot card reader.

“It felt enjoy a immense gut punch. These made-up allegations had been being presented to me by a particular person with the vitality of a bishop, in a gathering which I suddenly realised I had no set an eye on over,” says Jay.

“She (Venessa) had by some skill managed to create a bishop change into allotment of her stalking marketing campaign of harassment and threats, and utilize his vitality and location, and I couldn’t salvage it was as soon as going down.”

Jay says he was as soon as advised Venessa wouldn’t lose her licence to preach, but he would maybe be punished.

A man in a brown jacket with gloomy trousers sits with a long green meadow and bushes in the background. He is sitting on a green wooden gate.

Jay Hulme

He says Bishop Snow advised him the path of to begin his coaching for priesthood – one thing he determined he wished to pursue – would maybe be “slowed down”.

Jay was as soon as devastated. He went dwelling feeling trapped. And after the criticism was as soon as brushed off, extra messages had been posted.

“Undoubtedly horrific issues, announcing that I raped adolescents, that I stole money, that I was as soon as a racist, a bully. She created unfounded accounts that had been me announcing in fact racist issues and would then screenshot them and part this stuff,” he says.

Bishop Snow advised to Jay that his allegations weren’t per Venessa’s personality. But Jay soon learned he wasn’t the fully particular person tormented by Venessa’s behaviour.

Complaints ‘from 30 folk’

A colleague who labored closely with Venessa, Kat Gibson, had been complaining about her for added than a year sooner than the marketing campaign towards Jay began.

Kat says Venessa was as soon as unpredictable and adversarial in the unheard of. “I was as soon as correct in fact afraid as soon as I was as soon as spherical her, pondering, ‘what’s she going to explode at me for this time?’ with these explosive offended outbursts that I will’t cease.”

She provides that because the months went on, “around 30 folk” from eight church buildings approached her to informally bitch about Venessa’s behaviour. She calls the enlighten an “open secret” but particular person that managers felt unable to tackle.

In a joint commentary, Kat’s manager, Lusa Nsenga Ngoy – now a bishop in London – and Leicester Diocese acknowledged pastoral toughen and counselling had been offered to those affected. The Church of England says Kat’s complaints had been treated with care and seriousness.

A girl in a blue floral dress sits on a brown bench with a green and red flowery bush in the background.

Kat Gibson

She was as soon as a lay preacher in Leicester, but Venessa soon won rising prominence on a national stage.

In 2022, loads of months into her stalking marketing campaign towards Jay Hulme, she was as soon as elected onto the Church of England’s national assembly – the Total Synod.

Rapidly after, she was as soon as in fact one of correct a handful of folk from Synod appointed to the Crown Nominations Commission, a panel that selects new bishops and archbishops. But all of the whereas, she was as soon as sending endless immoral messages to Jay.

Screenshot of a message reading: I will create your lifestyles hell, I promise you

The on-line harassment from Venessa now included impolite pornographic sigh material posted on his social media. Then she tweeted Jay’s tackle.

He went to the police a 2d time, but again felt no sense of urgency.

“There was as soon as a length the put every evening, I’d wake up screaming which skill of I dreamed that I was as soon as being murdered by Venessa. I had additional locks placed on my door,” Jay says.

Apologies and conviction

Despite the incontrovertible truth that there looked as if it would be remark of being inactive, on the aid of the scenes the Church was as soon as clearly beginning to realise it had a enlighten on its hands.

Whereas Jay had been advised in summer 2022 that a Leicester Diocese investigation found out Venessa had been accountable for Jay’s harassment, he was as soon as also advised that the Bishop of Leicester determined rather the reverse.

The BBC has now learned that rapidly sooner than that, the bishop did inform Venessa to step aid from ministry which skill of “her behaviour”, though it isn’t any longer known what this refers to.

He also later revoked her licence to preach, after what’s described as “new proof” coming to light. The diocese also advised she hump on hump away.

But none of these items had been made public and didn’t cease the unrelenting stalking of Jay.

An exterior of Leicester Cathedral, towering high in front of a garden with a huge tree on the left.

Leicester Cathedral

All of a surprising, in behind 2022, Leicester Diocese presented Venessa would maybe be leaving.

It acknowledged she would “pursue diversified opportunities” and thanked her for the sure contributions she had made.

Again, this gave the affect to construct no longer have any impact on the abominate-filled barrages coming Jay’s reach.

“I wrote my have will which skill of…I felt that I’d been let down by the police, I’d been let down by the diocese and as a ways as I was as soon as appealing, this would continue unless in fact one of us died,” he says.

In desperation, in December 2022 he went to the police again.

In March 2023, 21 months after the stalking marketing campaign towards Jay began (and eight months after the Bishop of Leicester advised Jay he didn’t salvage him) the police in the waste took action towards Venessa.

“I score a phone name from Leicestershire Police (who) customarily acknowledged that they made a multitude of it. And in fact soon Venessa was as soon as arrested. Her devices had been confiscated,” says Jay.

In an announcement, Leicestershire Police acknowledged their initial response fell wanting the components expected, adding it persisted “to electrify its data and coaching in relation to preventing and detecting stalking offences”.

By the tip of 2023, Venessa had been charged. In Might presumably perhaps presumably simply 2024 she pleaded guilty to stalking, appealing severe injure or injure and was as soon as given an 18-month community list and banned from contacting Jay for a year.

After Venessa’s conviction, Jay requested for a gathering with the Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow, who now apologised. “He did acknowledge in some reach his have allotment in it and that he’ll need to have carried out better, and I agree,” says Jay.

Leicester Diocese advised us it took correct recommendation and is confident it adopted HR phrase and due path of in facing Jay’s criticism. But wouldn’t advise why it didn’t sack Venessa for months after concluding she had despatched the messages to Jay.

A spokesperson for the Church of England says they are “appalled by the severe prison behaviour that led to Venessa Pinto’s conviction.”

Venessa’s colleague Kat Gibson was as soon as recently made redundant from her post in Leicester. She says she’s worthy better, bodily and mentally, and is glad to be out of Church of England employment.

‘All people did not give protection to me’

And what of Venessa Pinto? Having done her community service and abided by the restraining list, she is as soon as extra preaching – and has also carried out missionary work in Brazil.

In an announcement to the BBC she acknowledged one facet of the court case in particular changed all the pieces for her.

“Studying (Jay’s) victim impact commentary introduced into fascinating focal point the be troubled I caused and reinforced my resolve to take responsibility and create amends,” Venessa says.

“I acknowledge the seriousness of my previous behavior and construct no longer uncover about to diminish its impact. I’ve moved forward in my lifestyles and hope these affected in Leicester and in other locations can accumulate it in their hearts to permit put of living for healing and development,” she says.

But whereas Venessa admits to the harassment she was as soon as convicted of, she denies some diversified allegations, including the frequent offended outbursts Kat and others reported. If reality be told she says accusations of aggressive behaviour had been never formally raised with her in Leicester.

Venessa says she was as soon as going through a demanding length and was as soon as combating her mental health all the plot in which through her time in Leicester.

A man in a brown jumper with a gloomy T-shirt stands wearing glasses in front of a green bush with a wicked necklace.

Her focusing on of Jay has left him scarred. He struggles to open his electronic mail for fear of what he’ll accumulate and he says his finances had been destroyed by years of sporadic work.

“I have faith that everyone did not give protection to me. I nearly feel enjoy I was as soon as naive that as soon as the police did not give protection to me, I thought the Church, which talks about safeguarding, (would),” says Jay.

“It fails which skill of folk are afraid to construct the supreme thing. In James, my favourite book of the Bible, there’s a runt bit that claims that someone who knows the supreme thing and fails to construct it, commits sin. And that’s the enlighten on the coronary heart of this Church.”

Pictures by the BBC’s Emma Lynch

A listing of organisations in the UK offering toughen and data with among the vital disorders in this epic is on hand at BBC Action Line

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