A preacher requested me out after which began stalking me

Aleem Maqbool, religion editor & Steve SwannFile on 4 Investigates

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It gave the influence fancy a harmless discover.

It became as soon as the summer of 2021, and Jay Hulme, a volunteer at St Nicholas Church in Leicester, became as soon as on the door, welcoming other folks. That’s when Venessa walked in.

“There became as soon as something awkward about her,” he recalls. “But I assumed it became as soon as about being in a unusual church with unusual other folks, and we had been precise popping out of the pandemic. There became as soon as no crimson flag.”

Venessa Pinto, employed by the Leicester diocese of the Church of England as a lay preacher – a non-ordained one who can lead savor – returned about a extra times to Jay’s church.

Just a few weeks later, they both took quandary to be at a midweek carrier in Leicester Cathedral. When it became as soon as over, she approached him and requested to keep up a correspondence privately. They stepped into the peaceable of the customary cathedral graveyard.

Then she requested him out.

“I became as soon as very taken aback, because I didn’t know her. And I became as soon as fancy, ‘I’m homosexual, but thanks for asking.’ But she requested me if it became as soon as because she became as soon as sad.”

Jay became as soon as startled by the inquire. He gently reiterated that he would possibly possibly perchance perchance no longer exit on a date because he became as soon as homosexual – and likewise no longer within the becoming quandary for a relationship.

“I left it thinking, ‘That became as soon as very awkward’, but I feel, ‘That’s the discontinuance of that.’”

It wasn’t.

Finally, it became as soon as the starting up of a devastating campaign of stalking and harassment. And when Jay complained, the absolute best authority within the Church in Leicester – a high contender to be the subsequent Archbishop of Canterbury – talked about he didn’t think him. As a replace, he accused Jay of witchcraft.

A blue signal with carrier details and contact slight print within the foreground, with St Nicholas Church in Leicester's customary stone constructing within the background.

St Nicholas Church, Leicester

‘Vile man’

That summer, Jay Hulme, then in his mid-twenties, became as soon as at a in point of fact pleased juncture in his lifestyles. He became as soon as a poet and author, an assistant warden at the LGBT-friendly St Nicholas Church and acknowledged on social media for his savor of church structures and theology.

He became as soon as exploring his Christian religion and brooding in regards to the chance of coaching to turn into a priest within the arrival years.

“I’m also trans, I’d reach out rather about a years sooner than, and I’d finally reach to a quandary of elephantine and entire happiness with who I became as soon as. I saw my future unfurling sooner than me in a approach that had felt not most likely sooner than,” he reminisces.

After being rejected, Venessa, also then in her mid-twenties, sent Jay a series of “mad and accusatory” messages, asserting he became as soon as gossiping about her. Even when he tried to reassure her he wasn’t, she became as soon as adamant.

To rob a detect at to resolve things, Jay agreed to a demand from her to meet. He had been sure that the meeting took quandary outside in public but a heavy rainstorm intended they ended up inside of, by myself together at her office.

He says she yelled at him, telling him he became as soon as a liar, a racist and an unpleasant particular person – aggravating an apology repeatedly again with out telling him what he became as soon as imagined to savor done.

Unsettled, Jay stopped interacting with Venessa and refrained from her when she continued to reach encourage to his church. But then he began to salvage messages from anonymous on-line accounts which can perchance perchance very successfully be viewed by his social media followers.

Screenshot of messages learning:

A series of messages read: Sorry but you seemingly would be in point of fact rather grotesque. Inside and outside. Vile man

Why construct you revel in hurting me so basic? What savor I ever done to you to deserve this roughly medication?

Am I no longer a human being that deserves to be treated with dignity and appreciate?

Jay mercurial labored out the author became as soon as Venessa. She even sent him an electronic mail from her interior most story apologising for what she described because the “anguish” she’d triggered.

However the nastiness on-line escalated, with Venessa publicly making false allegations and threats.

Screenshot of messages learning: Crawl and extinguish your self. That would possibly possibly develop my lifestyles so basic more straightforward. DIE! I mean it. Monster!!

I will develop your lifestyles hell, I promise you. 

You would also drink rat poison. I mean that is a painless diagram of dying

Jay became as soon as concerned for his safety. He reported the harassment to Leicestershire Police. He says he didn’t desire Venessa prosecuted at that time – precise for the abuse to prevent.

But he heard nothing encourage and the abuse continued relentlessly. Every time he blocked an story, one other would spring up. Jay felt he had no diagram of escaping it.

“I felt fancy she became as soon as in my pocket, and in my home, and in my mind the total time, asserting these horrendous things and I couldn’t salvage away,” he says.

Jay wished to discontinuance on-line attributable to his writing and speaking commitments. But he became as soon as starting up to lose contracts. He suspects that became as soon as attributable to the allegations about him on-line.

At final, weeks after reporting it, the police did drag to Venessa. The slay result became as soon as far from ample for Jay.

“She told the officer that it became as soon as her chums who had been sending the messages, and the officer told her to narrate them to prevent. I became as soon as told by the police that I must restful precise delete my social media,” he says.

Jay says he got the influence the police did no longer fancy the seriousness of the abuse because it became as soon as on-line.

Stalker books onto identical retreat

The police drag to precipitated even extra mad messages from Venessa.

Jay then began assembling a sturdy body of proof, now on a mission to show the messages had no longer been sent by Venessa’s chums, but by Venessa herself.

He compiled a detailed spreadsheet starting up off the connections between the a gigantic form of anonymous accounts which had sent abuse or posted allegations about him. All of them led encourage to Venessa.

Having misplaced religion within the police, Jay handed all this proof to the Church of England, which promised to evaluate his formal complaint.

While he waited, he belief he would salvage some respite by going to a mute Jesuit retreat in rural Wales. Days later, a colleague told him Venessa had booked to drag to the very identical retreat.

Jay had booked final minute and says there had been no longer many slots left. “It’s within the heart of nowhere. To this point as I’m concerned there isn’t any longer the kind of thing as one diagram that can perchance savor took quandary naturally.”

Jay left the retreat precise hours sooner than Venessa arrived. It left him apprehensive, feeling the stalking had now long past past the confines of the on-line.

Accused of witchcraft

At final, there became as soon as some sure details for Jay.

Abet in Leicester, the Church HR investigation concluded Venessa had been accountable for the abuse, to Jay’s big relief. He assumed that can perchance perchance be the discontinuance of it.

But nearly as rapidly as that took quandary, there became as soon as an unexpected turn.

He became as soon as known as into a meeting with the Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow – who’s viewed as a fave to turn into the subsequent Archbishop of Canterbury, chief of the Church of England.

Apartment of Lords/Roger Harris A portrait of Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow, wearing a navy blue blazer with a purple shirt. He's smiling and wearing glasses, with a grey background. Apartment of Lords/Roger Harris

Bishop of Leicester Martyn Snow

Jay belief Venessa became as soon as going to lose her job. But it indubitably became out the bishop had performed his hold investigation.

“I am going in and the bishop sits down with this thick folder on his knee. And he begins to inquire me about my complaint. He in point of fact states that ‘It’s he talked about, she talked about’.”

The bishop talked about he didn’t think that Venessa had been accountable for the harassment. And he wouldn’t uphold Jay’s complaint in opposition to her.

Then he made an unheard of accusation about Jay.

“Any person had given an announcement that I had been viewed within the church, within the darkness, with a candle – and in addition they belief I became as soon as conducting a seance. For readability, I became as soon as praying with a candle within the sad, because that’s a ingredient that Christians construct,” says Jay.

It got worse.

Bishop Snow accused him of practising witchcraft – both attributable to the “seance” and the fact Jay took quandary to savor a shut friend who became as soon as a tarot card reader.

“It felt fancy an countless gut punch. These made-up allegations had been being provided to me by a particular person with the flexibility of a bishop, in a meeting which I without warning realised I had no administration over,” says Jay.

“She (Venessa) had by hook or by crook managed to develop a bishop turn into portion of her stalking campaign of harassment and threats, and advise his energy and field, and I couldn’t think it became as soon as going down.”

Jay says he became as soon as told Venessa wouldn’t lose her licence to preach, but he would be punished.

A man in a brown jacket with sad trousers sits with a protracted inexperienced meadow and bushes within the background. He's sitting on a inexperienced wood gate.

Jay Hulme

He says Bishop Snow told him the course of to commence his coaching for priesthood – something he decided he wanted to pursue – would be “slowed down”.

Jay became as soon as devastated. He went home feeling trapped. And after the complaint became as soon as disregarded, extra messages had been posted.

“In actuality horrific things, asserting that I raped children, that I stole cash, that I became as soon as a racist, a bully. She created unsuitable accounts that had been me asserting in point of fact racist things and would then screenshot them and portion those things,” he says.

Bishop Snow suggested to Jay that his allegations had been no longer in accordance to Venessa’s persona. But Jay rapidly learned he wasn’t the absolute best particular person plagued by Venessa’s behaviour.

Complaints ‘from 30 other folks’

A colleague who labored carefully with Venessa, Kat Gibson, had been complaining about her for extra than a One year sooner than the campaign in opposition to Jay began.

Kat says Venessa became as soon as unpredictable and adversarial within the shameful. “I became as soon as precise in point of fact skittish when I became as soon as spherical her, thinking, ‘what’s she going to explode at me for this time?’ with these explosive mad outbursts that I’m able to’t stop.”

She adds that because the months went on, “spherical 30 other folks” from eight church buildings approached her to informally complain about Venessa’s behaviour. She calls the mission an “open secret” but one which managers felt unable to tackle.

In a joint remark, Kat’s supervisor, Lusa Nsenga Ngoy – now a bishop in London – and Leicester Diocese talked about pastoral enhance and counselling had been provided to those affected. The Church of England says Kat’s complaints had been treated with care and seriousness.

A girl in a blue floral dress sits on a brown bench with a inexperienced and purple flowery bush within the background.

Kat Gibson

She became as soon as a lay preacher in Leicester, but Venessa rapidly won rising prominence on a national stage.

In 2022, a entire lot of months into her stalking campaign in opposition to Jay Hulme, she became as soon as elected onto the Church of England’s national meeting – the Usual Synod.

Soon after, she became as soon as indubitably one of precise a handful of alternative folks from Synod appointed to the Crown Nominations Rate, a panel that selects unusual bishops and archbishops. However the total whereas, she became as soon as sending countless sinful messages to Jay.

Screenshot of a message learning: I will develop your lifestyles hell, I promise you

The acquire harassment from Venessa now integrated shameful pornographic shriek posted on his social media. Then she tweeted Jay’s address.

He went to the police a 2nd time, but again felt no sense of urgency.

“There became as soon as a length where every evening, I’d salvage up screaming because I dreamed that I became as soon as being murdered by Venessa. I had extra locks set on my door,” Jay says.

Apologies and conviction

Even when there perceived to be inaction, at the encourage of the scenes the Church became as soon as clearly starting up to realise it had an mission on its fingers.

While Jay had been told in summer 2022 that a Leicester Diocese investigation chanced on Venessa had been accountable for Jay’s harassment, he became as soon as also told that the Bishop of Leicester decided rather the replace.

The BBC has now learned that quickly sooner than that, the bishop did narrate Venessa to step encourage from ministry attributable to “her behaviour”, although it’s no longer acknowledged what this refers to.

He also later revoked her licence to preach, after what’s described as “unusual proof” coming to light. The diocese also suggested she drag on leave.

But none of this stuff had been made public and did no longer stop the unrelenting stalking of Jay.

An exterior of Leicester Cathedral, towering high in entrance of a lawn with a gigantic tree on the left.

Leicester Cathedral

All of a unexpected, in leisurely 2022, Leicester Diocese announced Venessa would be leaving.

It talked about she would “pursue rather about a opportunities” and thanked her for the sure contributions she had made.

Again, this perceived to haven’t any impact on the hate-stuffed barrages coming Jay’s diagram.

“I wrote my hold will because…I felt that I’d been let down by the police, I’d been let down by the diocese and as far as I became as soon as concerned, this would possibly possibly perchance continue till indubitably one of us died,” he says.

In desperation, in December 2022 he went to the police again.

In March 2023, 21 months after the stalking campaign in opposition to Jay began (and eight months after the Bishop of Leicester told Jay he did no longer think him) the police finally took skedaddle in opposition to Venessa.

“I salvage a phone name from Leicestershire Police (who) most incessantly acknowledged that they made a huge form of it. And intensely rapidly Venessa became as soon as arrested. Her gadgets had been confiscated,” says Jay.

In an announcement, Leicestershire Police acknowledged their preliminary response fell searching the requirements expected, along side it continued “to create its details and training in the case of fighting and detecting stalking offences”.

By the discontinuance of 2023, Venessa had been charged. In Might possibly perchance simply 2024 she pleaded responsible to stalking, engrossing vital injure or hurt and became as soon as given an 18-month community provide an explanation for and banned from contacting Jay for a One year.

After Venessa’s conviction, Jay requested for a meeting with the Bishop of Leicester, Martyn Snow, who now apologised. “He did acknowledge by hook or by crook his hold portion in it and that he must restful savor done better, and I agree,” says Jay.

Leicester Diocese told us it took excellent recommendation and is assured it followed HR observe and due course of in handling Jay’s complaint. But wouldn’t bid why it did no longer sack Venessa for months after concluding she had sent the messages to Jay.

A spokesperson for the Church of England says they are “appalled by the shameful felony behaviour that led to Venessa Pinto’s conviction.”

Venessa’s colleague Kat Gibson became as soon as no longer too long within the past made redundant from her put up in Leicester. She says she’s seriously better, bodily and mentally, and is pleased to be out of Church of England employment.

‘All individuals did no longer protect me’

And what of Venessa Pinto? Having applied her community carrier and abided by the restraining provide an explanation for, she is all over again preaching – and has also done missionary work in Brazil.

In an announcement to the BBC she talked about one ingredient of the courtroom case particularly modified every thing for her.

“Reading (Jay’s) victim impact remark introduced into engrossing heart of attention the anguish I triggered and bolstered my resolve to rob obligation and develop amends,” Venessa says.

“I acknowledge the seriousness of my past conduct and construct no longer detect to diminish its impact. I in point of fact savor moved forward in my lifestyles and hope those affected in Leicester and in other locations can gain it in their hearts to permit home for healing and boost,” she says.

But whereas Venessa admits to the harassment she became as soon as convicted of, she denies some rather about a allegations, along side the frequent mad outbursts Kat and others reported. Finally she says accusations of aggressive behaviour had been under no circumstances formally raised along with her in Leicester.

Venessa says she became as soon as going via a cosmopolitan length and became as soon as struggling along with her psychological health right via her time in Leicester.

A man in a brown jumper with a sad T-shirt stands wearing glasses in entrance of a inexperienced bush with a contaminated necklace.

Her concentrated on of Jay has left him scarred. He struggles to open his electronic mail for wretchedness of what he’ll gain and he says his budget had been destroyed by years of sporadic work.

“I feel that every person did no longer protect me. I nearly feel fancy I became as soon as naive that after the police did no longer protect me, I belief the Church, which talks about safeguarding, (would),” says Jay.

“It fails because other folks are skittish to construct the becoming ingredient. In James, my current book of the Bible, there’s a bit that says that someone who knows the becoming ingredient and fails to construct it, commits sin. And that’s the topic at the heart of this Church.”

Photography by the BBC’s Emma Lynch

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